desktop September 2015

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Dropping i686 media for F24
by Paul W. Frields 28 Jan '16

28 Jan '16

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2015-August/001661… Stephen Gallagher has proposed a Change for Server to drop i686 media for F24. Given our previous list discussion, this is something for which we should probably follow suit. Thoughts? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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file triggers in rawhide
by Matthias Clasen 05 Dec '15

05 Dec '15

Hey, I've added file triggers for a number of desktop things: - gsettings schemas - gio modules - desktop files - mime types - gdk-pixbuf loaders - gtk im modules If you are updating a desktop package in rawhide that uses any of glib-compile-schemas, gio-querymodules, update-desktop-database, update -mime-database, gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders or gtk-query-immodules-3.0 in its %post, %postun or %posttrans, you can simply drop those calls - the file triggers will take care of things. For the time being, it might be a good idea to add a dependency on a new-enough build of the package(s) whose file triggers you are using. Here is a representative commit: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/gedit.git/commit/?id=1cd2537b862233c c4b4b1d59a56d26224e8b5b8a Matthias

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when battery power is critical
by Chris Murphy 09 Oct '15

09 Oct '15

On Fedora 22 cleanly installed, this is what I see in Settings > Power: Automatic suspend: Off When battery power is critical: Hibernate There are no choices, those are fixed settings that I can't change. The actual behavior I see when the battery gets critical though, is suspend, not hibernate. First there is a message the machine is about to be hibernated, but then: Sep 27 02:45:38 f22m.localdomain systemd-sleep[4960]: Suspending system... I get the same results with Fedora 23, with one exception in Settings > Power "When battery power is critical: Hibernate" is not listed at all, just that automatic suspend is off. Anyway, the system suspends, but there is no battery power so the suspend to RAM is lost, and it's entirely possible if not likely that there will be data loss or fs corruption as a result. Also cc'ing test@ because I'm not seeing a test case for this. It seems to me that out of the box we shouldn't be risking people's data like this, but it's not like poweroff -f is a whole lot better (except for the fs portion). -- Chris Murphy

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Fedora 23 beta observations: the Utilities folder in the Applications view
by Elad Alfassa 30 Sep '15

30 Sep '15

Hi, I noticed we now install the new Characters app by default, which is great. However, wouldn't it make more sense if it'd go in the Utilities folder, where the old one used to live? Additionally I noticed Disks also found its way out of the Utilities folder, which also feels weird. It should probably go back to Utilities as well What do you think? -- -Elad.

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Workstation WG meeting recap 2015-Sep-30
by Paul W. Frields 30 Sep '15

30 Sep '15

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-09-30/workstation.2015… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-09-30/workstation.2015… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-09-30/workstation.2015… * * * =============================== #fedora-meeting: Workstation WG =============================== Meeting started by stickster at 14:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-09-30/workstation.2015… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (stickster, 14:00:04) * Utilities folder entries (stickster, 14:03:26) * ACTION: juhp_ nudge dueno to see email for fixing gnome-characters package (stickster, 14:07:17) * Fedora user agent for Chrome (stickster, 14:08:13) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1266569 (stickster, 14:08:20) * IDEA: Add this to Fedora 23 release notes, even though it's already been in, just to ensure users are informed (stickster, 14:09:26) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1266569#c10 <-- how are we installing this thing?? (mcatanzaro, 14:16:45) * ACTION: stickster Draft release note for Docs team and cc the desktop@ list for info (stickster, 14:18:59) * PulseAudio flat volumes (stickster, 14:19:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1265267 (stickster, 14:19:20) * ACTION: stickster review BZ 1265267 input from Wim/Arun for next meeting (stickster, 14:29:05) * F24 developer features (stickster, 14:38:13) * IDEA: extending GNOME Builder to provide additional container related tools (stickster, 14:48:14) * IDEA: make it dead simple to develop and build a RHEL application on Fedora, possibly through Builder (stickster, 14:54:09) Meeting ended at 14:56:28 UTC. Action Items ------------ * juhp_ nudge dueno to see email for fixing gnome-characters package * stickster Draft release note for Docs team and cc the desktop@ list for info * stickster review BZ 1265267 input from Wim/Arun for next meeting Action Items, by person ----------------------- * juhp_ * juhp_ nudge dueno to see email for fixing gnome-characters package * stickster * stickster Draft release note for Docs team and cc the desktop@ list for info * stickster review BZ 1265267 input from Wim/Arun for next meeting * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (71) * mcatanzaro (39) * mclasen__ (38) * otaylor (20) * rdieter (17) * juhp_ (14) * cschalle (11) * drago01 (8) * zodbot (7) * linuxmodder (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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Workstation WG meeting call for agenda 2015-Sep-30
by Paul W. Frields 30 Sep '15

30 Sep '15

Reminder: WG meeting tomorrow (Wed 2015-Sep-30) at 1400 UTC/10:00am US-EDT. Sorry for sending this agenda notice late. We have a couple items to discuss as far as I can tell: * Utilities folder entries -- who is creating downstream patch(es)? * Re: <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1266569> -- user agent issue -- what if anything do we need to notify users about here? (Preferably this should go in release notes) If you have additions to the agenda, please submit them to this thread by 30 minutes before tomorrow's meeting. Thanks and sorry again for the delay. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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Google Chrome User-Agent Extension
by Stephen Gallagher 28 Sep '15

28 Sep '15

This bug was just brought to my attention: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1266569 It appears that this extension is now installed by default on the Fedora Workstation release. I don't personally have a problem with this, but could someone please point me to where the decision was made and discussed so I can update the BZ and close it out?

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Kodi and Digital TV viewer
by Stephen Allen 26 Sep '15

26 Sep '15

Hi Folks! First post to this list - I'm a long time Debian user who wanted to try out the latest Gnome-Shell. I've got everything I want/need installed, bar the two applications mentioned in my subject line. How does one get these via repo? Also another question if I may - what is the default package manager for Fedora. I have 4 software mgrs: "Software", Package Manager, Yum Extender and Yum Extender-DNF. What's the difference between the 2 Yum Mgrs? Thanks. If this is the wrong list, please let me know.

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Re: Beta Announcement Highlights?
by Matthew Miller 18 Sep '15

18 Sep '15

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 07:32:09PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > We're sneaking up on the beta release, and the readiness meeting is > tomorrow. > I need some highlights for the beta release from folks who are working > on cloud, server, and workstation. Please send to me via email (e.g., > here) or add to the wiki here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F23_Beta_release_announcement Hey everyone. We're getting down to the crunch on this and Joe can't do it alone. I'm going to set aside a block of time (say, 17:00-19:00 UTC) tomorrow to hack on this. Join me in #fedora-mktg if you're able to help -- or just put things in the wiki. It doesn't even really need to be polished... need content first. Desktop, Server, Cloud WG people -- we could really use your help with talking points. What are the coolest, best-selling features from your point of view? (For reference, the Alpha annoucement is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F23_Alpha_release_announcement.) it's fine, but not super-exciting. Can we do better? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Re: Beta Announcement Highlights?
by Matthew Miller 18 Sep '15

18 Sep '15

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 07:32:09PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F23_Beta_release_announcement Okay, so, looking to be in much better shape. Thanks everyone! I have some other thing to wrap up today but will check back over the weekend and work on Monday on final polish for the Tuesday announcement. Cloud WG -- still need some more there, though! -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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