10:55 a.m.
There was one tester that drop by the test list and mentioned that the
touchscreen on his Lenovo Ideapad S10-3t did not work which raised the
question what's the current status on out of the box touchscreen/tablet
support ( single/multi ) in the Kernel/Xorg/Gnome in Fedora?
Given that there are more and more touchscreen/tablets coming of the
product line and they are getting increased popularity with end user
perhaps it should be considered a F14 feature trying to get the best out
of the box touchscreen/tablets experience for the end user?
Perhaps the project could try to sponsor those that are willing to work
on it by providing them with tablets?
JBG
http://lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/xorg.html ( Running F12 with MPX
support )
11:03 a.m.
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 15:55 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
There was one tester that drop by the test list and mentioned that
the
touchscreen on his Lenovo Ideapad S10-3t did not work which raised the
question what's the current status on out of the box touchscreen/tablet
support ( single/multi ) in the Kernel/Xorg/Gnome in Fedora?
Given that there are more and more touchscreen/tablets coming of the
product line and they are getting increased popularity with end user
perhaps it should be considered a F14 feature trying to get the best out
of the box touchscreen/tablets experience for the end user?
Perhaps the project could try to sponsor those that are willing to work
on it by providing them with tablets?
I think that particular issue is a development one - it's a missing or
broken driver. Not a matter of implementation at the desktop level. I
agree that the general case warrants consideration, though; assuming the
kernel / X layers provide proper support for a touchscreen device, our
desktop touchscreen experience should be good.
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11:08 a.m.
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 15:55 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
There was one tester that drop by the test list and mentioned that
the
touchscreen on his Lenovo Ideapad S10-3t did not work which raised the
question what's the current status on out of the box touchscreen/tablet
support ( single/multi ) in the Kernel/Xorg/Gnome in Fedora?
Given that there are more and more touchscreen/tablets coming of the
product line and they are getting increased popularity with end user
perhaps it should be considered a F14 feature trying to get the best out
of the box touchscreen/tablets experience for the end user?
Hard to to tell without more information. The tablet screen itself
should definitely work as a pointer out-of-the-box if the device is
correctly detected by the kernel and X.
Whether the desktop is doing a good job at handling the device is a
different matter (though GTK3 has XInput2 support, so we should start
seeing things like GIMP being automatically configured).
Perhaps the project could try to sponsor those that are willing to
work
on it by providing them with tablets?
Find out whether the device is actually supported by the kernel, and
whether it was detected by X (xinput --list).
In any case, I don't like the "didn't work" type questions, because you
know nothing of the expectations, and actual results.
2:09 p.m.
On 05/27/2010 04:08 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
In any case, I don't like the "didn't work" type
questions, because you
know nothing of the expectations, and actual results.
What are the end users expectation you ask I would say..
1. He installs Fedora and will being able to use Gnome on his
touchscreen/tablet pc out of the box just as he would with regular pc
either laptop or desktop with his mouse and keyboard without having to
do any extra manual configuration ( creating xorg.conf etc ).
2. He might want to enable multitouch to be able to teach or play with
his kids, friends or other family members through some application or game.
So let's break it down and see which components come into play here.
( feel free to chime in if I forget something )
Kernel
( someone on the kernel team could chime in here )
What is the current support ( drivers ) for these devices in the kernel
we ship?
Are drivers for touchscreens/tablet pc being added to newer kernel
versions than we ship?
If so should we back port these drivers to the kernel we ship?
Xorg
( Some one from the Xorg team could chime in here )
From what I've gather quickly from the internet users are using or
being directed to use one of the following three things.
1. xf86-input-evtouch
( http://www.conan.de/touchscreen/evtouch.html )
2. xf86-input-mutouch
( http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-mutouch/ )
<http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-mutouch/>
3. xf86-input-hidtouch
( http://hidtouchsuite.sourceforge.net/ )
4. xf86-input-evdev and multitouchd
( http://lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/xorg-howto.html )
The latest is available from Benjamin's git repository on freedesktop.
Are we packaging and shipping these?
Should we? ( as in are they the way forward as things are heading )
Gnome
Is there anything that needs to be done on Gnome side for it to support
single and multitouch out of the box ?
I mean if everything works from kernel and xorg side on a touchscreen
will the end user be able to login into Gnome
and start using application in both with single and multitouch setup or
does he need to do some foo to get it to work?
Does there exist a tool to switch between single touch and multitouch in
Gnome?
Do we need one?
Documention
Do we have any on how to get this stuff to work so we can point users to
them?
( The correct way for our end users )
Anything I'm missing ?
JBG
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