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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-10-27)
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Meeting started by cmurf at 17:35:23 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-10-28/workstation...
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Meeting summary
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* Rollcall (cmurf, 17:35:54)
* present: mclasen, aday, mcatanzaro, kalev, otaylor, tpopela, jens,
neal, langdon, cmurf (cmurf, 17:35:55)
* regrets wg members: (cmurf, 17:35:57)
* present guests: James (cmurf, 17:35:59)
* Approve 20 October minutes (cmurf, 17:36:01)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-10-21/workstation...
(cmurf, 17:36:03)
* Minutes are approved (cmurf, 17:36:05)
* Announcements (cmurf, 17:36:07)
* F33 release is 30 minutes away (cmurf, 17:36:09)
* aday wants to do F33 release retrospective discussion in future
(cmurf, 17:36:11)
* US election next week, do we hold meeting as usual? Yes, most of us
will be here. (cmurf, 17:36:13)
* Follow-ups and status reports (cmurf, 17:36:15)
* F34 planning (cmurf, 17:36:17)
* LINK: F34 milestone issues:
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&milestone=Fed...
(cmurf, 17:36:19)
* LINK: Issues with no milestone:
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&milestone=non...
(cmurf, 17:36:21)
* WG examines the list of issues tagged for F34 (cmurf, 17:36:23)
* Neal discusses btrfs full-disk encryption, goal for F34 (cmurf,
17:36:25)
* Neal asks tpopela about progress on removing Chrome's dependency on
atd. atd is already removed from F34 (fedora-workstation#183)
(cmurf, 17:36:27)
* ACTION: tpopela to work with Chrome upstream to remove atd
dependency. (cmurf, 17:36:29)
* Neal wants to rename fedora-workstation-repos package to something
generic so it can be used in desktop spins. (cmurf, 17:36:31)
* Matthias asks about generic camera app, is it a wishlist or
something that actually exists? aday and Neal reply that it already
exists. (cmurf, 17:36:33)
* aday asks how to handle apps that currently depend on Cheese; this
is something we need to think about. (cmurf, 17:36:35)
* Langdon asks what's wrong with Cheese? aday wants photo booth to be
less kooky, fewer fun effects. (cmurf, 17:36:37)
* aday wants to make progress on fedora-workstation#105 (install
fedora-workstation-repositories by default) and
fedora-workstation#108 (filtered view of flathub) (cmurf, 17:36:39)
* topela asks about systemd-oomd, which will be included in systemd
247. Neal suggests that we stick with earlyoom for F34, unless
systemd developers request otherwise. (cmurf, 17:36:41)
* WG examines the list of issues not tagged for F34 (cmurf, 17:36:43)
* Neal provides status update on fedora-workstation#161 (btrfs disk
integration). Development work stalled (cmurf, 17:36:45)
* tpopela mentions H.264 support in Firefox (fedora-workstation#126).
mstransky has been working on this. Neal says Firefox 81 should use
OpenH264 directly instead of via ffmpeg, so this should be fixed.
Michael suggests we should test Firefox and confirm it actually
works before closing the issue. (cmurf, 17:36:47)
* Neal discusses automatically installing OpenH264
(fedora-workstation#84). This still needs more work (possibly in
gnome-initial-setup) (cmurf, 17:36:49)
* WG discusses btrfs documentation for how to rescue corrupted
filesystem (fedora-workstation#157). Neal says this is WIP. (cmurf,
17:36:51)
* Neal says btrfs upstream is also fixing btrfs dependency on system
page size. (cmurf, 17:36:53)
* ABRT: Michael says status is not good, and probably not likely to
improve. (cmurf, 17:36:55)
* Neal mentions debuginfod. Local retracing should no longer require
installing debug RPMs anymore. ABRT developers are planning to work
on this. (cmurf, 17:36:57)
* Michael proposes to move some btrfs issues to the btrfs tracker.
(cmurf, 17:36:59)
* ACTION: Michael to move the issues (cmurf, 17:37:01)
* aday asks about fedora-workstation#125 (guidelines for preinstalled
and nonremovable apps). (cmurf, 17:37:03)
* ACTION: aday to prepare guidelines. (cmurf, 17:37:05)
* Neal suggests we close fedora-workstation#124 (anaconda: no more
hub). Michael closes the issue. (cmurf, 17:37:07)
* Neal asks do we replace PulseAudio with pipewire in F34? Kalev says
that's a question for Wim. tpopela says Wim is planning on F35, not
F34. Neal says Fedora Jam will use it in F34 anyway. (cmurf,
17:37:09)
* ACTION: Neal to discuss with Wim. (cmurf, 17:37:11)
* James mentions gnome-software downloading entire F33 runtime when
installing dconf-editor is unexpected. (This is related to
fedora-workstation#187.) (cmurf, 17:37:13)
* Open Floor (cmurf, 17:37:15)
* WG discusses timezones and DST. Remember meeting time is pinned to
US Eastern time. (cmurf, 17:37:17)
Meeting ended at 17:37:30 UTC.
Action Items
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* tpopela to work with Chrome upstream to remove atd dependency.
* Michael to move the issues
* aday to prepare guidelines.
* Neal to discuss with Wim.
Action Items, by person
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* aday
* aday to prepare guidelines.
* **UNASSIGNED**
* tpopela to work with Chrome upstream to remove atd dependency.
* Michael to move the issues
* Neal to discuss with Wim.
People Present (lines said)
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* cmurf (47)
* zodbot (7)
* aday (0)
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