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On 09/01/2014 09:30 AM, Elad Alfassa wrote:
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to
<mailto:bruno@wolff.to>> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 16:19:22 +0300,
Elad Alfassa <elad(a)fedoraproject.org
<mailto:elad@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:
However, "hardware accelerated graphics" shouldn't be in the
minimal -
people will still run Workstation on VM platforms where
it's
unavailable,
eg. KVM/spice, we don't want them to think it's
impossible to
run our own
OS on our own virtualization platform.
I think it would make more sense for "Hardware accelerated
graphics" to be
in the recommended section.
If you are using software for graphics you need a powerful CPU to
make the
system usable. That is an odd combination on real hardware. So
I think for a recommendation it makes sense to suggest hardware graphic
acceleration for workstation. I think the running it as a VM on one's
desktop is an outlier case.
Running in a VM on a desktop is actually a very important usecase.
We're
targeting developers after all, developers might develop to our
platform and test in a vm when running our platform or when running
another platform.
--
-Elad Alfassa.
Virtualization opens an entirely different context for hardware
requirements. QXL for guests hosted on my low power i3 utility server
run gnome-shell quite acceptably; my i7 workstation brings that up to
near-native for modern integrated graphics. Traditional cirrus type
graphics deliver a wholly unusable experience on the same hardware. QXL
isn't a magic bullet, though; on hosts with older hardware, performance
definitely degrades. I don't have a lot of experience with VMWare or
vbox stacks, but I assume there is a spectrum of unacceptable to
adequate to excellent there as well.
Maybe some guidelines specifically for virtualized instances of
Workstation would be a good idea. Recommend SPICE/QXL, with general
guidelines for other solutions, ie "For best results using Fedora
Workstation as a virtual machine, SPICE graphics with the QXL virtual
graphics adapter are recommended [link to explanation]. Other
virtualization solutions should provide adequate virtualized graphics
hardware to ensure the best possible experience."
....and maybe something brief about how testing/development in a VM
doesn't actually require a responsive desktop environment?
- --
- -- Pete Travis
- Fedora Docs Project Leader
- 'randomuser' on freenode
- immanetize(a)fedoraproject.org
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