VTE bug filed, was: frustrated with the state of linux accessibility

hi I've just updated f22. I don't see the item in the control+alt+tab popup for status icons, but I'll keep looking. This system is pretty much vanilla fedora with the exception of pidgin, so I'll run that, which does have a status icon that lives in gnome shell's message tray. I do have two suggestions that I hope can make it into 3.16, and a couple more that probably won't. First suggestion. When you click the updates button in gnome software, the "check for updates" button is not focusable by orca. You cannot navigate to it by pressing tab. You have to use orca's flat review to click on it to activate it. A nemonic of alt+c would make sense. When restarting to install updates, would it be possible to start gdm in a minimal state, just enough to allow orca to turn on and announce "installing updates" downloading updates, etc? At the moment all I see while updates are downloaded and installed is the fedora logo. Now comes my suggestions that won't make it into 3.16 unless I am very lucky. I'd like to suggest that status icons be moved to the top bar, possibly before or after the "settings" menu with system hardware, wifi, bluetooth, power, etc, so everything is in one place. I'd also like to suggest a "software" item be permanently attached to the top bar if gnome software is installed, so that the user can check for update manually, configure when updates are checked for, etc. I don't think it's possible to configure gnome software much at the moment, it checks when it's told to. The gnome guys have done a fantastic job with accessibility. I wasn't sure about this new notifications system but it's accessible and very handy. Congratulations on a job very very well done! I'll file that vte bug so it can get fixed, as well as bugs against gnome-control-center if there are any unlabeled buttons or duplicates Thanks for reading Kendell clark Sent from Fedora GNU/Linux kendell clark wrote: > hi Sweet, I'll update my test system running f22 and try this. > I'll write back in with feedback Thanks Kendell clark Sent from > Fedora GNU/Linux > Florian Müllner wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:59 PM kendell clark >> <coffeekingms(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>> But how do I get to applications that formally resided in the >>> message tray without resorting to the mouse? Could a >>> keyboard shortcut be added in 3.16 that would jump to that >>> area? >> It has already been added to the ctrl-alt-tab popup, so it is >> possible to navigate to the area using the keyboard. >> Unfortunately the icons themselves are notoriously bad with >> regard to accessibility though ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVC1aNAAoJEGYgJ5/kqBTda9oQAItnAmt1FGt9FUfl+wHWpcpE hqJ3R++r/ihyJLCnvX4MsURKikd3k2HPoiIz2m4alEJ8k7oZs9CkjOK/OzGYXpIh 2oy+FbgrCx+OZlIWukO6xx2x2zfG48BNP0Trav7dwg5RxWhkFIdDckboJ/RIdll4 f6uAvOUdLGo0DjDL3iJ/uEwAOxfvhq0Ceqtis5FqZlSia7W+ItuNCnHItzyV4eOw 346bKjR0gNPLpo7Pwa1sxKGg5KGYV/FpVB+IcJjoyPbGQM/uF9YrzFfE0mJzJqSX 5AecNPWOe2CAsY4oyZLN5h1d5u3pGRHBYzXM6jQDMlPGWi0p/zj5GFpvpX57UThW 3ayo0OX3liMUDNsK4haGkXoj2PUQ3bG1wbBpdnwOmrjpz+PO+FmBlwllMxoOdxH7 mwYb3eA/iOrXR/I9XbJI2goonZUORscIDKlIZTLgke8D5LJD7+3q0QU0nrWoLuzZ RYnB163Iwig6uTOPZt6hRrK5b37MyvRC7w4J5uqgZr0wDZRevH4CfqIRCl7XWScE XOAIbg/Fi5ncULn2HTgj6nWmYBIUBIU0DRHXpX66TP+ugN/Z2glQc0midhIZZnUi M/mvSsjKWJ1ACvGGS1uqQztQWz/mFSpWhZrTH3kSGBsADp7kjwReb0kx4Y3Gfnx9 1fDUF4NYGqUx2k6/v4qL =c3EG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----