Hi guys, If you're unaware, there has been a discussion about Zanata terms ( http://zanata.org/terms) in http://fedora.zanata.org does not match with Fedora policy (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/PrivacyPolicy). We are happy to update the terms link (bottom of http://fedora.zanata.org) to the fedora policy page if that is agreed by everyone. Also, http://fedora.zanata.org has been gathering visitor statistics in the backend (Piwik). It only gather page view data, not personal information. The data valueable to Zanata team to study and understand the user workflow and behaviour that will incooperate into our design work. Does anyone have any concern over this? Or wish it to be removed from fedora.zanata.org? --------------------------------------------- Alex Eng Senior Software Engineer Globalisation Tools Engineering DID: +61 3514 8262 <callto:+61+3514+8262> Mobile: +614 2335 3457 <callto:+614+2335+3457> Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd Level 1, 193 North Quay Brisbane 4000 Office: +61 7 3514 8100 <callto:+61+7+3514+8100> Fax: +61 7 3514 8199 <callto:+61+7+3514+8199> Website: www.redhat.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Carlos Munoz <camunoz(a)redhat.com&gt; Date: Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 11:03 PM Subject: Re: Why is RedHat using Piwik to track contributors? To: Fedora Infrastructure <infrastructure(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; Hi Jean-Baptiste, please see my comments inline. Regards, Carlos. On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft < jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr&gt; wrote: Not sure what is being implied here, but Alex is genuinely not aware of what you meant here, and neither was I until you clarified it was the Zanata terms of use page, so thank you for said clarification. We already did this, and it's the one you see at the moment. You however pointed out it doesn't align with Fedora policy. It can be changed by any admin in the system when a new url is provided. We have admin rights in the system, but we'd prefer if these changes were done by a Fedora l10n admin (e.g. Noriko) as this is their responsibility and they have stated they prefer all changes to go through them. I also imagine there needs to be some discussion about any such changes with the community as a whole. Same thing here. It can be done, but please have one of the l10n admins take care of the change. In this particular case I would really urge the community to consider keeping the setting as it provides the development team valuable information about how Zanata is being used. But alas if this goes against policy then we will just have to make due. I'm curious as to which part of the mailing list guidelines you feel is not being respected by Zanata. Would you care to elaborate? Agreed on values. We are happy to help wherever we can, but please understand Zanata is in no way attempting to 'gather every information' about its users. Whatever information it tracks is akin to system logs, to be used to analyze and improve the platform. But like I said before, the community can elect to opt out of this, and the admins have the capability to do it. Not sure I understand your point here. Do you wish to see some of the piwik statistics which could help with language coordination? If so, we would be happy to share those with the community. Or, are you talking about new features in Zanata for the same purpose? Furthermore, should we move this thread to the l10n mailing list and out of the Infra one? _______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list -- infrastructure(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to infrastructure-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org