8:44 a.m.
Kudos to developers for using ngettext, but there is a slightly
complicated example in anaconda:
msgid_plural "%d of %d optional packages selected"
For Serbian (and other Slavic languages I presume), the resulting
localized version will depend on both numbers, not just the first.
I would like to file a BZ request for this to be broken up in two
parts and used recursively, as in:
msgid_plural "%d optional packages"
#. TRANSLATORS: %s is substituted by the string above
msgid_plural "%d of %s selected"
Before I do so, just wanted to check this fits ok with other
languages? Can't see a problem so far...
Regards,
Miloš
8:53 a.m.
2008/8/28 Miloš Komarčević <kmilos(a)gmail.com>:
msgid_plural "%d optional packages"
#. TRANSLATORS: %s is substituted by the string above
msgid_plural "%d of %s selected"
Before I do so, just wanted to check this fits ok with other
languages? Can't see a problem so far...
No problem for Spanish.
Regards,
Domingo Becker (es)
12:04 p.m.
Milo? Komar?evi? writes:
Kudos to developers for using ngettext, but there is a slightly
complicated example in anaconda:
msgid_plural "%d of %d optional packages selected"
For Serbian (and other Slavic languages I presume), the resulting
localized version will depend on both numbers, not just the first.
Judging from the originals,
msgid "%d of %d optional package selected"
msgid_plural "%d of %d optional packages selected"
I would assume it is the second, not the first number which influences
the choice.
There is a problem here, and it is not restricted to Slavic languages.
It is a problem for Swedish (a Germanic language) too. "Selected"
should be translated in different ways depending on the first number.
I would like to file a BZ request for this to be broken up in two
parts and used recursively, as in:
msgid_plural "%d optional packages"
#. TRANSLATORS: %s is substituted by the string above
msgid_plural "%d of %s selected"
Before I do so, just wanted to check this fits ok with other
languages? Can't see a problem so far...
It's dangerous to compose sentences like that. More often than not,
it breaks for some languages. I don't personally know a language it
would break in, and it would solve the problem in Swedish too. But
I'm still a bit afraid of it.
Unfortunately, the po format isn't made to cope with sentences with
more than one singular/plural distinction. So I don't have any better
suggestion than yours. I just wanted to warn about it.
5:45 a.m.
Göran,
Thanks for the feedback.
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Göran Uddeborg <goeran(a)uddeborg.se> wrote:
Judging from the originals,
msgid "%d of %d optional package selected"
msgid_plural "%d of %d optional packages selected"
I would assume it is the second, not the first number which influences
the choice.
You're absolutely right.
There is a problem here, and it is not restricted to Slavic
languages.
It is a problem for Swedish (a Germanic language) too. "Selected"
should be translated in different ways depending on the first number.
Yep, same here, and I presume there are even more cases.
It's dangerous to compose sentences like that. More often than
not,
it breaks for some languages. I don't personally know a language it
would break in, and it would solve the problem in Swedish too. But
I'm still a bit afraid of it.
Unfortunately, the po format isn't made to cope with sentences with
more than one singular/plural distinction. So I don't have any better
suggestion than yours. I just wanted to warn about it.
Agreed, but since this is I hope a rare exception, and no one else
complained so far, I think I'll just go ahead and request this kludgy
workaround.
Thanks,
Miloš
11:44 a.m.
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Miloš Komarčević <kmilos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Göran Uddeborg
<goeran(a)uddeborg.se> wrote:
> It's dangerous to compose sentences like that. More often than not,
> it breaks for some languages. I don't personally know a language it
> would break in, and it would solve the problem in Swedish too. But
> I'm still a bit afraid of it.
>
> Unfortunately, the po format isn't made to cope with sentences with
> more than one singular/plural distinction. So I don't have any better
> suggestion than yours. I just wanted to warn about it.
Agreed, but since this is I hope a rare exception, and no one else
complained so far, I think I'll just go ahead and request this kludgy
workaround.
It's been suggested to change the sentence to something like [1]:
"Optional packages: %d/%d"
which would eliminate the use of ngettext altogether.
Should work for all other languages, no?
Miloš
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460728
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