8:02 a.m.
Hello there,
I have noticed that even though Fedora Translation QuickStart Guide is 100%
translated into Brazilian Portuguese, it is not available in this language
at http://docs.fedoraproject.org. It seems that's happening with other
Fedora Guides too. Does anyone know the reason?
Best regards,
Marcel Ribeiro Dantas Gerente de Projeto
Laboratório de Inovação Tecnológica em Saúde
s: mribeirodantas.fedorapeople.org e: mribeirodantas(a)lais.huol.ufrn.br
"An idea is only knowledge when shared."
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9:47 a.m.
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Marcel Ribeiro Dantas <
ribeirodantasdm(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello there,
I have noticed that even though Fedora Translation QuickStart Guide is
100% translated into Brazilian Portuguese, it is not available in this
language at http://docs.fedoraproject.org. It seems that's happening with
other Fedora Guides too. Does anyone know the reason?
Best regards,
Hey Marcel,
The Translation Quick Start guide has been abandoned by the l10n team in
favor of wiki resources, as I understand it. It still covers Transifex
workflows.
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/translation-quick-start-guide.git/
says there has not been a content update for quite some time.
In general, we try to publish translated guides when that translation team
lets us know it is ready. In the future we hope to automate using the
Zanata API to check translation status and publish.
-- Pete
9:59 a.m.
2016-09-12 11:47 GMT-03:00 Pete Travis <me(a)petetravis.com>:
Hey Marcel,
The Translation Quick Start guide has been abandoned by the l10n team in
favor of wiki resources, as I understand it.
So I believe the efforts should be directioned at translating the wiki
directly, correct?
In general, we try to publish translated guides when that translation
team lets us know it is ready. In the future we hope to automate
using the
Zanata API to check translation status and publish.
Nice to know. I will get the list of guides translated into Brazilian
Portuguese so that I can let you know it's ready for production. Should it
be submitted here? Open a ticket? What trac?
Best regards,
Marcel Ribeiro Dantas Gerente de Projeto
Laboratório de Inovação Tecnológica em Saúde
s: mribeirodantas.fedorapeople.org e: mribeirodantas(a)lais.huol.ufrn.br
"An idea is only knowledge when shared."
<http://linkedin.com/in/mribeirodantas>
11:29 p.m.
On 2016年09月13日 00:59, Marcel Ribeiro Dantas wrote:
2016-09-12 11:47 GMT-03:00 Pete Travis <me(a)petetravis.com
<mailto:me@petetravis.com>>:
Hey Marcel,
The Translation Quick Start guide has been abandoned by the l10n
team in favor of wiki resources, as I understand it.
So I believe the efforts should be directioned at translating the wiki
directly, correct?
It was my bad. I was the owner of this book. I was too busy and unable
to respond and migrate, thus gave up, sorry. I still believe that it
would be nice to have the guide in book format than wiki. The book has
revision history, and reader can know the version he is reading (if
translated version is older).
If anyone wants to start new book for translation team, it is most
welcomed :-)
In general, we try to publish translated guides when that
translation team lets us know it is ready. In the future we hope to
automate using the Zanata API to check translation status and publish.
Nice to know. I will get the list of guides translated into Brazilian
Portuguese so that I can let you know it's ready for production. Should
it be submitted here? Open a ticket? What trac?
AFAIK, a translator could join docs team and gained necessary permission
to publish for his team translated books by himself. For Japanese team,
Jokagi-san is translator and publisher for Japanese translated books.
However, I understand that atm docs team has the publishing issue and no
book can be published. I might be wrong, please correct me.
JB, another roll, publisher!!
noriko
Best regards,
Marcel Ribeiro Dantas Gerente de Projeto
Laboratório de Inovação Tecnológica em Saúde
s: mribeirodantas.fedorapeople.org
<http://mribeirodantas.fedorapeople.org/> e: mribeirodantas(a)lais.huol.ufrn.br
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<http://linkedin.com/in/mribeirodantas>
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12:29 a.m.
2016-09-14 1:29 GMT-03:00 Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org>:
It was my bad. I was the owner of this book. I was too busy and
unable
to respond and migrate, thus gave up, sorry. I still believe that it
would be nice to have the guide in book format than wiki. The book has
revision history, and reader can know the version he is reading (if
translated version is older).
If anyone wants to start new book for translation team, it is most
welcomed :-)
Well, I do like the books. If it's open for discussion, I'd vote to keep
the books as they are now in docs.fedoraproject.org and then, start
publishing the translated versions :-D
AFAIK, a translator could join docs team and gained necessary permission
to publish for his team translated books by himself. For Japanese team,
Jokagi-san is translator and publisher for Japanese translated books.
However, I understand that atm docs team has the publishing issue and no
book can be published. I might be wrong, please correct me.
Well, I'd like to join docs team and be a publisher then, if it's possible.
I'm a translator/reviewer for pt_BR and I have no doubt the maintainers for
pt_BR would approve a publisher. If not me, someone else. What's the
instructions for becoming a publisher/publishing the translated versions?
mribeirodantas
1:05 a.m.
On 2016年09月14日 15:29, Marcel Ribeiro Dantas wrote:
2016-09-14 1:29 GMT-03:00 Noriko Mizumoto
<noriko(a)fedoraproject.org
<mailto:noriko@fedoraproject.org>>:
It was my bad. I was the owner of this book. I was too busy and unable
to respond and migrate, thus gave up, sorry. I still believe that it
would be nice to have the guide in book format than wiki. The book has
revision history, and reader can know the version he is reading (if
translated version is older).
If anyone wants to start new book for translation team, it is most
welcomed :-)
Well, I do like the books. If it's open for discussion, I'd vote to keep
the books as they are now in docs.fedoraproject.org
<http://docs.fedoraproject.org> and then, start publishing the
translated versions :-D
I'm happy to know someone likes the books :-)
Please notice that the content of this guide (TQSG) is really old... It
no longer works for current structure and definitely needs major update
first before publishing it... So do not waste your time to translate and
publish.
AFAIK, a translator could join docs team and gained necessary permission
to publish for his team translated books by himself. For Japanese team,
Jokagi-san is translator and publisher for Japanese translated books.
However, I understand that atm docs team has the publishing issue and no
book can be published. I might be wrong, please correct me.
Well, I'd like to join docs team and be a publisher then, if it's
possible. I'm a translator/reviewer for pt_BR and I have no doubt the
maintainers for pt_BR would approve a publisher. If not me, someone
else. What's the instructions for becoming a publisher/publishing the
translated versions?
afaik, you need to join docs team [1] as you will be bridging trans team
and docs team (aka becoming docs team member as well). Then gain
necessary permission(s) from docs team [2]. Please notice that currently
docs team has the publishing issue, and I am not sure if it is worth for
you to be a publisher just now. I learned at FLOCK that docs team
currently is testing new tools for publishing. It might be good to wait
for it? I feel it is coming in next fudcon :-D
[1]:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_Docs_Project
[2]:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Publishing_a_document_with_Publican
noriko
mribeirodantas
1:13 a.m.
Le 14/09/2016 à 08:05, Noriko Mizumoto a écrit :
On 2016年09月14日 15:29, Marcel Ribeiro Dantas wrote:
> Well, I'd like to join docs team and be a publisher then, if it's
> possible. I'm a translator/reviewer for pt_BR and I have no doubt the
> maintainers for pt_BR would approve a publisher. If not me, someone
> else. What's the instructions for becoming a publisher/publishing the
> translated versions?
afaik, you need to join docs team [1] as you will be bridging trans team
and docs team (aka becoming docs team member as well). Then gain
necessary permission(s) from docs team [2]. Please notice that currently
docs team has the publishing issue, and I am not sure if it is worth for
you to be a publisher just now. I learned at FLOCK that docs team
currently is testing new tools for publishing. It might be good to wait
for it? I feel it is coming in next fudcon :-D
[1]:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_Docs_Project
[2]:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Publishing_a_document_with_Publican
Marcel, if
you wish to do this, you may also have a look to this page :
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/how_to_build_a_translated_book_from_t...
José from french team created it so we can publish local version to
review, without waiting for docs team (who is overwhelmed by work).
I'll be please to help you to spot 100% translated content, you may use
my python script (or the extract I just did for vFAD)
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jibecfed#Zanata_Statistics
Let me know if you wish to make a followup of things to publish.
--
Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
11:18 a.m.
2016-09-14 3:13 GMT-03:00 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr :
Le 14/09/2016 à 08:05, Noriko Mizumoto a écrit :
> On 2016年09月14日 15:29, Marcel Ribeiro Dantas wrote:
> afaik, you need to join docs team [1] as you will be bridging trans team
> and docs team (aka becoming docs team member as well).
Noriko, I just checked to be sure and I'm already approved in the docs team
:-) wonderful.
Please notice that currently docs team has the publishing issue, and
I am
> not sure if it is worth for
> you to be a publisher just now.
Well, I think I will follow the suggestions of Jean, then.
Marcel, if you wish to do this, you may also have a look to this page :
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/how_to_build_a_translate
d_book_from_translated_files_on_Zanata
José from french team created it so we can publish local version to
review, without waiting for docs team (who is overwhelmed by work).
I'll be please to help you to spot 100% translated content, you may use my
python script (or the extract I just did for vFAD)
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jibecfed#Zanata_Statistics
Let me know if you wish to make a followup of things to publish.
I will talk to some translators in the ptBR L10N team and read the links
you just shared. I hope soon to have a guide translated and online :-)
Thank you all for the quick replies!
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